HawaldarNaik
02-04 12:09 PM
I take frequent trips to India and all of them are extremely satisfying, and many times the thought has crossed my mind about the possiblity of moving back but it will take some time for changes to happen for the good and that is because i think,
We, Indians have a basic mental flaw wherein we shy away from unpleasant confrontation regardless of the merits of our case or the adverse consequences that such inertia engenders. The net result is that we are unable to translate our moral convictions into practical reality allowing law abiding citizens to be held hostage to the tantrums of a belligerent and corrupt minority, who call the shots in most places, right from the bottom to the top , in any sphere or area...(rather than talent and merit that should call the shots )
We, Indians have a basic mental flaw wherein we shy away from unpleasant confrontation regardless of the merits of our case or the adverse consequences that such inertia engenders. The net result is that we are unable to translate our moral convictions into practical reality allowing law abiding citizens to be held hostage to the tantrums of a belligerent and corrupt minority, who call the shots in most places, right from the bottom to the top , in any sphere or area...(rather than talent and merit that should call the shots )
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rangaswamy
07-06 05:24 PM
to generate more support, I live in Bay area and I am very willing to participate.but cant at such short notice. we need to generate some media awareness before we organize a rally so that we get coverage.. any idea who is organizing this?
Honestly i dont think any one person should "organize" it. If something goes wrong, then organizer will be held which is un-necessary trouble for some one wanting to do good!
Honestly i dont think any one person should "organize" it. If something goes wrong, then organizer will be held which is un-necessary trouble for some one wanting to do good!
mhtanim
02-03 09:59 PM
Count me too. I am from NSC to CSC, my case is still in CA only.I don't know what is happening. I have opned 2 SR's also. I am a july 2 nd filer.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
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nefrateedi
08-22 04:01 PM
Application reached NSC on July 14. No receipts or cashed checks yet.
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venkybr
09-24 11:18 AM
Anybody whose 485 transferred from NSC to VSC, received FP notice?
nousername
02-02 01:14 PM
Minimalist....
First off, do not generalize H1 to IT industry only.. Trust me, Indian are present in other fields also and they are doing well there :)
Now about your comments, so I guess you truly believe in jungle raj.. Basically, do whatever you think benefits you.. Forget about what other people might need. May be you don't understand the mean of "society" and what makes humans different from animals. Sad, very sad..
About your example, I hope that does not happen to anyone but if it does then yes the employer should pay for the return flight back home but please do not mix two separate issues.
Anyway, I do not think I need to waist any more time with you because you fail to understand the underlining issue.
Good luck with you immigration because that seems to be the focus of your life.
nousername,If your would-be employer had sponsored the visa,it got selected and then he has to not hire you on Oct1st because of his business not doing so well, what would you do?
Ideally your employer should rescind your offer and buy you a ticket back home.
But in the IT industry, that is the reason most people still work with desi employer, even thouh they know that they will be taken advantage of.
Is it illegal? Yes. But there is a risk for the people involved.
Also, when someone tries to land H1 for the first time, it is really tough to find an employer who can apply 6 months in advance.Most american companies don't even go through the hassle unless they are hiring for non-IT positions. Then you have companies like Infosys who apply in bunches and keep them ready for the business they are expecting in future. Try and argue with them that they shouldn't do that as many people who have jobs lined up right now will not get H1s.
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
You gotta do what you gotta do. If you keep thinking about all deserving people,you would never take a step forward. At everypoint in life you will have certain options and every option woul cause some or other discomfort. Unless you are involved in clearcut criminal activity, everything else is fair, in my opinion.
First off, do not generalize H1 to IT industry only.. Trust me, Indian are present in other fields also and they are doing well there :)
Now about your comments, so I guess you truly believe in jungle raj.. Basically, do whatever you think benefits you.. Forget about what other people might need. May be you don't understand the mean of "society" and what makes humans different from animals. Sad, very sad..
About your example, I hope that does not happen to anyone but if it does then yes the employer should pay for the return flight back home but please do not mix two separate issues.
Anyway, I do not think I need to waist any more time with you because you fail to understand the underlining issue.
Good luck with you immigration because that seems to be the focus of your life.
nousername,If your would-be employer had sponsored the visa,it got selected and then he has to not hire you on Oct1st because of his business not doing so well, what would you do?
Ideally your employer should rescind your offer and buy you a ticket back home.
But in the IT industry, that is the reason most people still work with desi employer, even thouh they know that they will be taken advantage of.
Is it illegal? Yes. But there is a risk for the people involved.
Also, when someone tries to land H1 for the first time, it is really tough to find an employer who can apply 6 months in advance.Most american companies don't even go through the hassle unless they are hiring for non-IT positions. Then you have companies like Infosys who apply in bunches and keep them ready for the business they are expecting in future. Try and argue with them that they shouldn't do that as many people who have jobs lined up right now will not get H1s.
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
You gotta do what you gotta do. If you keep thinking about all deserving people,you would never take a step forward. At everypoint in life you will have certain options and every option woul cause some or other discomfort. Unless you are involved in clearcut criminal activity, everything else is fair, in my opinion.
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n2b
08-13 02:05 PM
DId your checks get cashed and receipts issued.
I heard from a friend,he got a receipt but checks not cashed yet.
The checks were submitted by my attorney and I am sure they might have cashed but I can not say for sure.
I heard from a friend,he got a receipt but checks not cashed yet.
The checks were submitted by my attorney and I am sure they might have cashed but I can not say for sure.
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eb3_nepa
12-11 07:50 AM
Guys even H1B increases are not that bad. A lot of our spouses could get jobs on h1b if it was open just now. Ultimately isint that what we want? Both husband and wife working?
I know that it could have a possible effect on the EB but I think a LOT of our spouses could work if the H1B quota was available. I know atleast 2-3 such friends whose wives can easily get jobs if the H1B was open.
I know that it could have a possible effect on the EB but I think a LOT of our spouses could work if the H1B quota was available. I know atleast 2-3 such friends whose wives can easily get jobs if the H1B was open.
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makemygc
08-01 05:11 PM
If anyone's I140 is pending at NSC, they thinks otherwise. You will feel other lanes are fast except one which you are. :D it's humane nature and It's ok to vent. you will feel better.;)
But the whole process of sending to NSC and then transferring it to TSC is ridiculous..just waste of resources and time. Althought, they have realized the mistake and now allowing for direct filing.
But the whole process of sending to NSC and then transferring it to TSC is ridiculous..just waste of resources and time. Althought, they have realized the mistake and now allowing for direct filing.
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brb2
10-16 10:55 PM
Well numbersusa are against any immigration and they will always use illegal immigration as the vehicle to couch and attack any form of immigration. Their ranks consist of both democrats and GOP. Generally those who are threatened by any sort of immigration. Union workers in MI would be group in sync with numbersusa. So also would be buidling workers where there is strong competition from Hispanic workers walking accross the border.
I personally think businesses have been promised action on issues after the election. If not by now businesses would have entered the fray. H1B and skill bill and also the agjobs will be definitely passed due to pressure from big businesses. Economy is strong and they are not able to fill positions.
I personally think businesses have been promised action on issues after the election. If not by now businesses would have entered the fray. H1B and skill bill and also the agjobs will be definitely passed due to pressure from big businesses. Economy is strong and they are not able to fill positions.
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furiouspride
08-24 07:44 PM
True, like I still have a EDD letter talks about my first case for GC was filled on Aug. 2001 as wanted to immigrant but what is the use, as I have to file new one as even if I have transferred my employment to my parent companies client, USCIS has no rule to transfer labor process or priority dates until has approved i140, they requires to file new one which surly takes time. And I am sure mostly people completed even 10 years of working waiting for GC have the same issue.
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gclongwaytogo
10-11 02:39 PM
July VB Fiasco I-485 Receipting Delays
The USCIS has yet to release the detailed progress report on the receipting delays in terms of the numbers that have yet to be processed for receipting. The only thing people know through various private websites just indicates that there are a plenty of people who are still waiting for filing fee checks cashed or receipt notices received for the cases which were filed as early as July 2, 2007, not to mention any later cases.
We reported earlier that the USCIS had allegedly received total of 800,000 cases for the July VB fiasco cases. There is an unconfirmed report that they have completed the receipting only half way through of the total, meaning approximately 400,000. There are no sources of information to verify or confirm the figures. However, if it is correct, the USCIS has yet to process mountains of receipting workloads ahead and the filers have some additional sleepless nights which they will have to endure for a while. AMEN!
The USCIS has yet to release the detailed progress report on the receipting delays in terms of the numbers that have yet to be processed for receipting. The only thing people know through various private websites just indicates that there are a plenty of people who are still waiting for filing fee checks cashed or receipt notices received for the cases which were filed as early as July 2, 2007, not to mention any later cases.
We reported earlier that the USCIS had allegedly received total of 800,000 cases for the July VB fiasco cases. There is an unconfirmed report that they have completed the receipting only half way through of the total, meaning approximately 400,000. There are no sources of information to verify or confirm the figures. However, if it is correct, the USCIS has yet to process mountains of receipting workloads ahead and the filers have some additional sleepless nights which they will have to endure for a while. AMEN!
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hindu_king
03-06 04:38 PM
You are seeing it from a complete 180 degrees than I see it. It's not us who's discriminating, it is the laws which are discriminating. I am asking them to treat us all equal, I entered the country on an H1B which was an employement based application it did not hav any country quota, then why should green cards for EB have country quota. Why should a person from India wait for 10 year and a person from Romania get it in 1 year....I think your ROW friends shold understand our position.
We are not asking for discriminating ROW. All we are asking is to end discriminating Indians.
We are not asking for discriminating ROW. All we are asking is to end discriminating Indians.
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cool_desi_gc
04-26 09:29 AM
Lets not get sucked into it..
1) If there is a clause that you cannot join thier client directly, then it has to respected.These clauses are valid in court.
2) What is there in the agreement if you join their client ? There should be a penality specified in the agreement if the clause in broken.
Lessons learnt
1) Why the hell did you sign the agreement without looking at these clauses ?
2) Why din't you have a copy of the agreement with you ?
I have seen many companies having a similar clause.There are some American companies as well that have similar clauses that you cannot join their clients within X months after employement termination.Generally you can work these things out with your employer and join the client if you leave with good terms.
But he cannot withhold your salary regardless.Thats against the law.They can penalize you but cannot withhold your salary.
1) If there is a clause that you cannot join thier client directly, then it has to respected.These clauses are valid in court.
2) What is there in the agreement if you join their client ? There should be a penality specified in the agreement if the clause in broken.
Lessons learnt
1) Why the hell did you sign the agreement without looking at these clauses ?
2) Why din't you have a copy of the agreement with you ?
I have seen many companies having a similar clause.There are some American companies as well that have similar clauses that you cannot join their clients within X months after employement termination.Generally you can work these things out with your employer and join the client if you leave with good terms.
But he cannot withhold your salary regardless.Thats against the law.They can penalize you but cannot withhold your salary.
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minimalist
01-31 01:17 PM
nousername,If your would-be employer had sponsored the visa,it got selected and then he has to not hire you on Oct1st because of his business not doing so well, what would you do?
Ideally your employer should rescind your offer and buy you a ticket back home.
But in the IT industry, that is the reason most people still work with desi employer, even thouh they know that they will be taken advantage of.
Is it illegal? Yes. But there is a risk for the people involved.
Also, when someone tries to land H1 for the first time, it is really tough to find an employer who can apply 6 months in advance.Most american companies don't even go through the hassle unless they are hiring for non-IT positions. Then you have companies like Infosys who apply in bunches and keep them ready for the business they are expecting in future. Try and argue with them that they shouldn't do that as many people who have jobs lined up right now will not get H1s.
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
You gotta do what you gotta do. If you keep thinking about all deserving people,you would never take a step forward. At everypoint in life you will have certain options and every option woul cause some or other discomfort. Unless you are involved in clearcut criminal activity, everything else is fair, in my opinion.
Minimalist.. to begin with, I am not here to judge you or anyone else and I don't think sledge ever had those intentions. Hence, please don't take any of the comments personally.
The original post by nehas was a question to which almost everyone, including sledge responded, trying to help her. The common answer was that she (not he) needs to switch back to H4 as she is already out of status. My orignal post very clearly indecates the reasons why I believe Neha is already out of status. Here is the link http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23395
After I answered Neha's question, which I know is the correct answer, I asked her a simple question i.e. is it ethical to apply for H1 visa when a person does not have a job offer, especially when the entire legal immigrant community knows that for last few years due to the visa cap it is very hard to obtain a new H1 even if you have a valid job offer.
I totally agree with you that no one on the face of this earth is a pure saint but ours (legal immigrants) is a small hardworking community, which most often understand each others pains, and that's the reason this forum exist.
Now, I ask you in the most humble way, what would you have done if your would-be employer had sponsored the visa but due to the lottery your application was never even selected for processing. To top that you learn from all over the world that companies like Wipro, Satyam and desi body shops applied for H1's, which they probably won't even use. Don't get me wrong.. I am a proud Indian and proud what these companies have archived..
Ideally your employer should rescind your offer and buy you a ticket back home.
But in the IT industry, that is the reason most people still work with desi employer, even thouh they know that they will be taken advantage of.
Is it illegal? Yes. But there is a risk for the people involved.
Also, when someone tries to land H1 for the first time, it is really tough to find an employer who can apply 6 months in advance.Most american companies don't even go through the hassle unless they are hiring for non-IT positions. Then you have companies like Infosys who apply in bunches and keep them ready for the business they are expecting in future. Try and argue with them that they shouldn't do that as many people who have jobs lined up right now will not get H1s.
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
You gotta do what you gotta do. If you keep thinking about all deserving people,you would never take a step forward. At everypoint in life you will have certain options and every option woul cause some or other discomfort. Unless you are involved in clearcut criminal activity, everything else is fair, in my opinion.
Minimalist.. to begin with, I am not here to judge you or anyone else and I don't think sledge ever had those intentions. Hence, please don't take any of the comments personally.
The original post by nehas was a question to which almost everyone, including sledge responded, trying to help her. The common answer was that she (not he) needs to switch back to H4 as she is already out of status. My orignal post very clearly indecates the reasons why I believe Neha is already out of status. Here is the link http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23395
After I answered Neha's question, which I know is the correct answer, I asked her a simple question i.e. is it ethical to apply for H1 visa when a person does not have a job offer, especially when the entire legal immigrant community knows that for last few years due to the visa cap it is very hard to obtain a new H1 even if you have a valid job offer.
I totally agree with you that no one on the face of this earth is a pure saint but ours (legal immigrants) is a small hardworking community, which most often understand each others pains, and that's the reason this forum exist.
Now, I ask you in the most humble way, what would you have done if your would-be employer had sponsored the visa but due to the lottery your application was never even selected for processing. To top that you learn from all over the world that companies like Wipro, Satyam and desi body shops applied for H1's, which they probably won't even use. Don't get me wrong.. I am a proud Indian and proud what these companies have archived..
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srkamath
08-10 01:10 PM
My husband received CPO mail on 08/04, welcome mail on 08/05, soft LUD on 08/06 and approval notice sent mail on 08/09 but dated 08/08 in USCIS status. Hoping to have the GC in hand next week.
Anyone who has the same chain of events or received GC for CPO mail on 08/04 or later?
mita ! Relax.....:)
Even a credit card bill takes about a week to reach you ! You will definitely get his card next week, i'm sure you and child will also get approvals soon. At least there is movement on your family's case.
Thanks for promptly reporting your approvals and for the updates.
Anyone who has the same chain of events or received GC for CPO mail on 08/04 or later?
mita ! Relax.....:)
Even a credit card bill takes about a week to reach you ! You will definitely get his card next week, i'm sure you and child will also get approvals soon. At least there is movement on your family's case.
Thanks for promptly reporting your approvals and for the updates.
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07-08 03:17 PM
I thought we have made immense progress with regard to our moral standards so that one does not have to necessarily make significant personal sacrifices to upholds ones way of life and independence. That is why I believe this is be kind of a Civil rights/Equal Employment kind of case.
It could be argued that the supreme court has given the government authority to discriminate based on country of origin for immigration purposes. That could easily be justified for new people coming into the country. Albiet it is slightly different from the case of most of us, those who are already in the process at some stage. In our case, DOS/DOL/USCIS acknowledge that we should be granted permanent residence (based on Labor) and even on such basis, is willing to extend our visas/work status indefinitely. However, we are being limited to not change employer (in case 485 is not applied) and to not change the field of work (in case 485 is applied). I think this can be argued as a violation of Equal Employment Oppurtunity by the government by a competent lawyer. Even if the court does not do anything, it will go a long way in people and common people realising these issues.
I was surprised to find that even my cousin (who has been here since 1980) did not realise that the situation is so bad until we had a discussion about my status last christmas. Most just assume that a small minority of people with wierd/complicated cases are held up for longer then 2-3-4 years.
It could be argued that the supreme court has given the government authority to discriminate based on country of origin for immigration purposes. That could easily be justified for new people coming into the country. Albiet it is slightly different from the case of most of us, those who are already in the process at some stage. In our case, DOS/DOL/USCIS acknowledge that we should be granted permanent residence (based on Labor) and even on such basis, is willing to extend our visas/work status indefinitely. However, we are being limited to not change employer (in case 485 is not applied) and to not change the field of work (in case 485 is applied). I think this can be argued as a violation of Equal Employment Oppurtunity by the government by a competent lawyer. Even if the court does not do anything, it will go a long way in people and common people realising these issues.
I was surprised to find that even my cousin (who has been here since 1980) did not realise that the situation is so bad until we had a discussion about my status last christmas. Most just assume that a small minority of people with wierd/complicated cases are held up for longer then 2-3-4 years.
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josecuervo
08-20 12:02 PM
Folks
Did anyone get their physical Cards without getting CPO message ?
I have recd the I-797C Approval notice on the 11th but I have not recd the physical cards as yet. BTW I did not get any welcome e-mail or CPO mail - I directly got 485 Approval e-mail and that is all.
wait4ever,
My situation is very similar to yours.
As per CSR "The cards will be sent to the printer in October". I dont know how far it is true or what to make out of it.
Probably she is reading a standard call script. God knows...
Did anyone get their physical Cards without getting CPO message ?
I have recd the I-797C Approval notice on the 11th but I have not recd the physical cards as yet. BTW I did not get any welcome e-mail or CPO mail - I directly got 485 Approval e-mail and that is all.
wait4ever,
My situation is very similar to yours.
As per CSR "The cards will be sent to the printer in October". I dont know how far it is true or what to make out of it.
Probably she is reading a standard call script. God knows...
thomachan72
05-23 08:25 AM
You seem to be acting more in your interest than larger good of the members of this community. You have been quietly browsing all this time and suddenly became a member and starting whining and complaining of what IV is doing. You don't need to get hyperactive and start freaking out. Relax and do what IV is requesting you to do at this time. There are a lot of items & issues IV is working on and they have prioritized some of them as very important which affects the larger members of this group. These important ones are what they are concentrating for now. If you do not like what IV is doing, you are more then welcome to move on and do what pleases you. But please stop discouraging & instigating other members with your stupid comments.
I apologize if the post sounded discouraging / instigating to members. I do completely support IV team, particularly because it is a collective decision made by a dedicated group which certainly would be much more wise than what I think with my limited awareness on this whole issue. Yes indeed as somebody pointed out--if the backlog is removed completely there would not be a need for H1b 3 year renewal.
I apologize if the post sounded discouraging / instigating to members. I do completely support IV team, particularly because it is a collective decision made by a dedicated group which certainly would be much more wise than what I think with my limited awareness on this whole issue. Yes indeed as somebody pointed out--if the backlog is removed completely there would not be a need for H1b 3 year renewal.
sledge_hammer
02-12 01:52 PM
You have still not answered my question - where did you get the idea that I am here self imposing high standards? You have talked about everything else but that. So you have decided to take refuge by not answering the main reason why I said you are making accusations.
And just to prove that you are not off the mark, you are confusing everyone else who is reading the posts, between being on the right side morally and having a high standard in general! Again, get this into your head before you start typing more nonsense.
I totally get that people like you need to feel like everyone is more or equally corrupt than themselves, and that you try very hard to push down someone's throat that they are also as flawed as you are. Its ok, I understand! You're in that state of mind right now, that's why you're after me for 3-4 posts arleady asking me to accept that I'm not morally sincere!
Its time you go back to being in an artificially blissful state of mind thinking that you have proven everyone on this planet who dare speak of ethics and moral to be somehow riding on a high horse.
I know people like you, they are a dime a dozen! I do not have to pander to your misguided statements anymore!
"self-imposed" as in 'chosen people' - as to subscribe to a higher standard to fulfill some expectation. It is not an accusation, it is called underlying presumptions in your posts.
" I did not convey my intentions clearly" - then your comm skills are not much as you have presumptively touted them to be when you shot down the other guy. I am just pointing out, before pontificating, try self-analysis.
And just to prove that you are not off the mark, you are confusing everyone else who is reading the posts, between being on the right side morally and having a high standard in general! Again, get this into your head before you start typing more nonsense.
I totally get that people like you need to feel like everyone is more or equally corrupt than themselves, and that you try very hard to push down someone's throat that they are also as flawed as you are. Its ok, I understand! You're in that state of mind right now, that's why you're after me for 3-4 posts arleady asking me to accept that I'm not morally sincere!
Its time you go back to being in an artificially blissful state of mind thinking that you have proven everyone on this planet who dare speak of ethics and moral to be somehow riding on a high horse.
I know people like you, they are a dime a dozen! I do not have to pander to your misguided statements anymore!
"self-imposed" as in 'chosen people' - as to subscribe to a higher standard to fulfill some expectation. It is not an accusation, it is called underlying presumptions in your posts.
" I did not convey my intentions clearly" - then your comm skills are not much as you have presumptively touted them to be when you shot down the other guy. I am just pointing out, before pontificating, try self-analysis.
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