EndlessWait
10-08 03:01 PM
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
Lets do that and also have $5 recurring contributions , if $20 is lot for people.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
Lets do that and also have $5 recurring contributions , if $20 is lot for people.
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Pineapple
07-07 02:14 PM
I guess it would have to be a pretty big and wild rally to have the police getting involved. :p
But Chandu raises an excellent point. There is much more to a rally than just turning up. Some one from core can probably help with detailed instructions.. these are just my thoughts.. feel free to add/correct.. (PS: I have zero experience in rallies, by the way)
First, I suppose checking with the local authorities and informing them of your plans, expected turnout, location, duration etc before anything else is a good idea. Bad idea to have have an unexpected crowd turn up randomly in a public place.
Organize placards, banners, podium, hand outs etc. Dont forget first aid kits, water.
Figure out who is going to be the spokesperson for the rally. Would be pretty silly if a reporter does come there and no one knows how to articulate well.
The spokesperson should check with core regarding message etc. This is important.
If there is critical mass for the rally, and the authorities are informed etc, then contact the local news and inform them as well..
Any other ideas/tips?
Please be prepared for unanticipated actions in case of rallies
Check this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFdNkXJMH9A&mode=related&search=
IV members - never lose control or temper - in a public rally. Be careful - remember, in this current scenerio we do not have much sympathy - if any official assualts us - more sympathy will be towards them.
Please do a thorough research on how effective rallies are based on our situation. We do not have much political support - no government support, no public support - and not the least of sympathy though we contribute so much.
In case of unanticipated actions - we may never know if politically we will have any help fro higher ups.
Also - please check the numbers ( remember though a lot of people show enthusiasm in discussion forums, in reality you will find very less people taking part)
So please do your homework and do a lot of discussion. Do not hurry up and rush into rallies. A lot of rallies are done by disciplined leaders who plan these well in advance.
Please do some research.
Once again - it is nice to see the zeal in all the members to do something. Please contribute to IV. Participate in media drive and update information. Help in all posible ways. Please contact core to discuss strategies.
Keep up the spirit.
But Chandu raises an excellent point. There is much more to a rally than just turning up. Some one from core can probably help with detailed instructions.. these are just my thoughts.. feel free to add/correct.. (PS: I have zero experience in rallies, by the way)
First, I suppose checking with the local authorities and informing them of your plans, expected turnout, location, duration etc before anything else is a good idea. Bad idea to have have an unexpected crowd turn up randomly in a public place.
Organize placards, banners, podium, hand outs etc. Dont forget first aid kits, water.
Figure out who is going to be the spokesperson for the rally. Would be pretty silly if a reporter does come there and no one knows how to articulate well.
The spokesperson should check with core regarding message etc. This is important.
If there is critical mass for the rally, and the authorities are informed etc, then contact the local news and inform them as well..
Any other ideas/tips?
Please be prepared for unanticipated actions in case of rallies
Check this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFdNkXJMH9A&mode=related&search=
IV members - never lose control or temper - in a public rally. Be careful - remember, in this current scenerio we do not have much sympathy - if any official assualts us - more sympathy will be towards them.
Please do a thorough research on how effective rallies are based on our situation. We do not have much political support - no government support, no public support - and not the least of sympathy though we contribute so much.
In case of unanticipated actions - we may never know if politically we will have any help fro higher ups.
Also - please check the numbers ( remember though a lot of people show enthusiasm in discussion forums, in reality you will find very less people taking part)
So please do your homework and do a lot of discussion. Do not hurry up and rush into rallies. A lot of rallies are done by disciplined leaders who plan these well in advance.
Please do some research.
Once again - it is nice to see the zeal in all the members to do something. Please contribute to IV. Participate in media drive and update information. Help in all posible ways. Please contact core to discuss strategies.
Keep up the spirit.
akhilmahajan
02-09 11:39 AM
Just sign on to www.Paypal.com and send money to donations@immigrationvoice.org.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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desi3933
06-27 03:30 PM
Dr. William:
My I-485 application based on I-140 of NIW has been approved finally, after an RFE replying. Is there any requirement of how long I can change job after the I-485 approval?
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A:
According to USCIS previous requirement, a person is required to work for the sponsoring employer for at least one year after obtaining the Green Card. There may be a problem when you want to apply for U.S. citizenship later, if you leave the sponsoring employer in a short period of time after obtaining the Green Card.
The AC-21 rule does not clear the issue of a person who leaves its employer after the I-485 approval, but it is better to take a conservative way to reduce the potential risk later.
http://www.greencardapply.com/question/question04/question04_0519.htm
That was long time back and was changed in early 90s.
There is no requirement to work for 1 year.
Also, AC-21 allows to replace the GC employer to a new employer, but it does NOT change the intent to work for the employer after I-485 is approved.
I could not find a phone number on the site you mentioned.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
My I-485 application based on I-140 of NIW has been approved finally, after an RFE replying. Is there any requirement of how long I can change job after the I-485 approval?
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A:
According to USCIS previous requirement, a person is required to work for the sponsoring employer for at least one year after obtaining the Green Card. There may be a problem when you want to apply for U.S. citizenship later, if you leave the sponsoring employer in a short period of time after obtaining the Green Card.
The AC-21 rule does not clear the issue of a person who leaves its employer after the I-485 approval, but it is better to take a conservative way to reduce the potential risk later.
http://www.greencardapply.com/question/question04/question04_0519.htm
That was long time back and was changed in early 90s.
There is no requirement to work for 1 year.
Also, AC-21 allows to replace the GC employer to a new employer, but it does NOT change the intent to work for the employer after I-485 is approved.
I could not find a phone number on the site you mentioned.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
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dkshitij
11-19 10:21 AM
Could we please change the Advocacy title? When I share the page on facebook, only the word Advocacy shows up. I would rather see this when I link it.
Action Alert
DREAM Act: Help the Legal Immigrants
Get involved, Act Now
Contact Members of Congress to request inclusion of ammendments in the DREAM act for Legal Immigrants.
Also the spelling of amendments is wrong there as you can see above. Thanks!
Action Alert
DREAM Act: Help the Legal Immigrants
Get involved, Act Now
Contact Members of Congress to request inclusion of ammendments in the DREAM act for Legal Immigrants.
Also the spelling of amendments is wrong there as you can see above. Thanks!
maverick_joe
05-02 03:51 PM
go EB3 go!
its high time they moved the dates in the next bulletin..my prediction
EB3 I - Nov 2002
EB3 ROW - Dec 2006
its high time they moved the dates in the next bulletin..my prediction
EB3 I - Nov 2002
EB3 ROW - Dec 2006
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gdhiren
07-11 10:15 AM
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/immigrants-refused-green-cards-take-to-gandhigiri/44667-2.html
Don't forget to watch the video.
Ok, Already posted on the other thread but then why is this thread here?:)
Don't forget to watch the video.
Ok, Already posted on the other thread but then why is this thread here?:)
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sgorla
05-23 11:05 AM
Sent emails to my Senators from Nevada, and other Senators listed here.
Please continue to send emails.
Please continue to send emails.
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gsc999
07-06 08:42 PM
Please clarify. I thought it is happening on July 14 or 21.
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- There is an event organized by a Chinese organization, this is 7th July in San Jose. Please see first post of this thread for details
- Since it is such a short notice for 7th July event, who ever is interested from IV may join it. I will join to show support to the Chinese organization for our cause. You are welcome to join too.
- IV will organize a similar event on 14th July. We will publish details about location/route/time soon.
Hope this is clear.
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- There is an event organized by a Chinese organization, this is 7th July in San Jose. Please see first post of this thread for details
- Since it is such a short notice for 7th July event, who ever is interested from IV may join it. I will join to show support to the Chinese organization for our cause. You are welcome to join too.
- IV will organize a similar event on 14th July. We will publish details about location/route/time soon.
Hope this is clear.
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pamposh
08-18 02:11 PM
Is there anyone who is with me, anyone at all? I need around 15 people to kick this off...
I am just looking for three things
a) A letter that we will jointly send to few people. Urging them to follow a fair system.
b) Talk to your lawyer to discss with AILA
c) Talk to you chapter leader.
I have not read your controversial posts others are referring to but about this one, this is a genuine cause and I am with you for this.
I am just looking for three things
a) A letter that we will jointly send to few people. Urging them to follow a fair system.
b) Talk to your lawyer to discss with AILA
c) Talk to you chapter leader.
I have not read your controversial posts others are referring to but about this one, this is a genuine cause and I am with you for this.
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sam2006
07-19 07:53 PM
Try to make the Post Sticky
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sbabunle
05-03 06:21 PM
I agree with MChundi here. I have been in this process since 2002 and have worked closely with my lawyers but it never ceases to amaze me how much complexity is built into the GC system. Putting the ads, applying for labor, aplying for I-140 answering any throwbacks from DOL/UCSIS. TO add to that the goof ups by the immigration lawyers and their para-legals certainly confuses the hell out of u.
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I agree with you eb3-nepa. My story is pretty much same as yours. Its not
a good idea to blame IV. IV is trying to do whatever possible within its limits.
If we are going to point out and resolve the issues in the immigration area the list would grow day by day. I think its better to focus on critical issues ( like retrogression, automatic recapturing of Visas and removing or increasing the per country quota ) and lobby for them. Most importantly DO NOT criticize IV unless absolutley we have to. Because unnecessary criticism may kill many of the volunteers spirits. If we ask for too many things ( like work permissions for H4) we may end up in getting nothing.
I hope and pray some good law will come up where there will be some good for everyone.
thanks
babu
Most ppl who apply for GCs are unaware about retrogression and PBEC problems at the onset. Even if they are aware u think, "well, my labour will take abt a year or so so by then hopefully things will become current". I mean not a lot of us, have the time or the foresight to plan THAT much in advance.
Now if we as H1s dont know the deal here, H4's CERTAINLY dont know the deal and it takes them a LOT more time to grasp the reality of things coz they have to absorb many other things like learning how to drive here, learning how the credit system works here etc etc etc.
All that being said, i would ask the H4's to try and avoid pointing blame at the IV members. This is not an easy process for sure. We are in NO position to demand anything from the US Govt. Whatever progress we have made is also quite phenomenal. I Still cant believe we collected even $100,000+ !! Right now the best strategy is to solve the primary applicant's problems and try and get the dependents problems go away along with that.
I agree with you eb3-nepa. My story is pretty much same as yours. Its not
a good idea to blame IV. IV is trying to do whatever possible within its limits.
If we are going to point out and resolve the issues in the immigration area the list would grow day by day. I think its better to focus on critical issues ( like retrogression, automatic recapturing of Visas and removing or increasing the per country quota ) and lobby for them. Most importantly DO NOT criticize IV unless absolutley we have to. Because unnecessary criticism may kill many of the volunteers spirits. If we ask for too many things ( like work permissions for H4) we may end up in getting nothing.
I hope and pray some good law will come up where there will be some good for everyone.
thanks
babu
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NIW
11-22 12:46 AM
I was shocked to read your post and tears rolled on my cheeks. But I admire your determination to achieve your goal. Oh my God! You are a different kind of guy, Please don't lose your hope. I really don't know what kind of cancer and what stage are you at but I believe miralcles do happen. We all will pray for you. We wish you the best. I really want to say so many things but I don't know how.
All I say is God bless you my friend, Keep fighting and never give up.
An unknown friend
All I say is God bless you my friend, Keep fighting and never give up.
An unknown friend
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chapper
08-13 05:20 PM
Congrats! Can you please tell us where your I140 was approved from. Are the checks cashed?
I got my I485 receipt notice today. Our applications are delivered on July 2nd.
Receipt Date: 07/02/07
Notice Date: 08/06/07
I got my I485 receipt notice today. Our applications are delivered on July 2nd.
Receipt Date: 07/02/07
Notice Date: 08/06/07
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ns007
05-23 01:19 PM
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hpandey
07-21 09:07 PM
EAD Paper Filed TSC - 21st June
RD - 06/23/08
No LUD after that. Still waiting.
RD - 06/23/08
No LUD after that. Still waiting.
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raju123
07-06 03:38 PM
We need some powerful press release for this Gandhigiri
Absolutely awesome. It's on the front page! Well done! Keep sending those flowers.
Absolutely awesome. It's on the front page! Well done! Keep sending those flowers.
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nixstor
08-19 07:15 AM
Guys,
There is no point in fighting over the inconsistency of CIS in picking applications. All of us know that a lot of people got approved last year during visa gate and many were left over even though their PD's are current. No one knows how USCIS picks an application for adjudication. It is clearly neither completely RD based nor PD based. It's up to the whims and fancies of CIS.
If IV were to make agenda's on the inconsistencies of USCIS, the list will be endless.
I have 04 PD and am waiting. I have friends with 06 PD's who got approved. I know its frustrating to watch your friends get approved and to have your own case pending for no reason. But this is NOT some thing we should be surprised about. CIS is trying to maximize visa number usage and trying to approve as many applications as they can. All of July 07 filers have passed the 180 days since the FBI name check has been initiated and ideally CIS should be approving applications with old PD's. We all know that we don't live in an ideal world. Imagine all these visa numbers going wasted. I personally (NOT IV) will try to get an answer to this FIFO issue, but the situation itself is short lived and probably will not exist by Oct 1st 08.
There is no point in fighting over the inconsistency of CIS in picking applications. All of us know that a lot of people got approved last year during visa gate and many were left over even though their PD's are current. No one knows how USCIS picks an application for adjudication. It is clearly neither completely RD based nor PD based. It's up to the whims and fancies of CIS.
If IV were to make agenda's on the inconsistencies of USCIS, the list will be endless.
I have 04 PD and am waiting. I have friends with 06 PD's who got approved. I know its frustrating to watch your friends get approved and to have your own case pending for no reason. But this is NOT some thing we should be surprised about. CIS is trying to maximize visa number usage and trying to approve as many applications as they can. All of July 07 filers have passed the 180 days since the FBI name check has been initiated and ideally CIS should be approving applications with old PD's. We all know that we don't live in an ideal world. Imagine all these visa numbers going wasted. I personally (NOT IV) will try to get an answer to this FIFO issue, but the situation itself is short lived and probably will not exist by Oct 1st 08.
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indyanguy
09-30 12:33 PM
Hi,
Can someone explain the process of using AC21 for self employment? I have searched the web without much luck. If someone can throw some light on this topic along with how to deal with issues that come up with AC21 and self employment I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
Can someone explain the process of using AC21 for self employment? I have searched the web without much luck. If someone can throw some light on this topic along with how to deal with issues that come up with AC21 and self employment I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
desi3933
07-10 02:25 PM
@desi3933:
On the other hand, I-140 is linked to Permanent Labor Certification (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm) (aka GC labor)
"Permanent Labor Certification" does not mean the job has to be "permanent" (you're again *assuming*, no?) It could also mean LC for "permanent" residency!
Looks like you missed this on that link:
The job opportunity must be for a full time, permanent position.
There must be a bona fide job opening available to U.S. workers.
Job requirements must adhere to what is customarily required for the occupation in the U.S. and may not be tailored to the foreign worker's qualifications. The employer must pay at least the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment.
On the other hand, I-140 is linked to Permanent Labor Certification (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm) (aka GC labor)
"Permanent Labor Certification" does not mean the job has to be "permanent" (you're again *assuming*, no?) It could also mean LC for "permanent" residency!
Looks like you missed this on that link:
The job opportunity must be for a full time, permanent position.
There must be a bona fide job opening available to U.S. workers.
Job requirements must adhere to what is customarily required for the occupation in the U.S. and may not be tailored to the foreign worker's qualifications. The employer must pay at least the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment.
anzerraja
07-20 12:38 AM
Thanks Very much !!!
One more person in the 320 group. Awesome, we are going to make it happen tommorow !
I pledge for 200$.
One more person in the 320 group. Awesome, we are going to make it happen tommorow !
I pledge for 200$.
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